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« on: November 04, 2005, 09:01:39 PM »

Very Happy  WHAT DOES ANYONE THINK OF THIS ??  THEY CLAIM THEY HAVE WORK OUT THE BUG AND WOULD BE IN PRODUCTION WITHIN 180 DAYS.. www.rematinc.com   THEOREDICALLY ON TERMS OF PHYICS IT BREAKS ALL LAWS.  IF THIS IS LEGITEMATE THIS WOULD BE THE  INVENTION OF THE CENTURY!!  I HAVE RECENT INVESTED IN THIS AND HOPE IT GOES TO THE MOON...   icon_thumleft
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2005, 09:10:13 PM »

first, stop yelling. second, let me be the first to say  bs

oh wow. a perpetuum mobile. no wait, a perpetuum mobile that generates power. mwahahahaha. i hope you really did invest your life's safings in this scam.

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2005, 09:24:20 PM »

:haha:  Na just enough to make a few bucks, but thanks for you concern :haha:  I was expecting a speedy response to the first skeptic that would have no knowledge of this technology.  I'm sure when Edison discovered electricity your ansestors bashed him too.  And we know how that turned out don't we  Smile  Not that you care but I have seen this machine in action but I'm sure you don't really care.  But you know thats good for me because I just proved My POINT!  tongue8
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2005, 09:33:19 PM »

How exactly did you prove your point? Yelling it doesn't make it so.

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2005, 09:48:12 PM »

Neutral  Just merely saying that I knew that there would a skeptic within a nanosecond.  whether or not he has knowledge base of the science behind it, he would rather be destructive on the topic then productive.  If you don't believe in it say so and move on.  I respect someone more for some constructive criticism vs bashing.  If you don't like it well so what.  Anyway I'm new to this forum, and found that you tend to see the same people bashing people to get there stats up.  What a joke!  :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2005, 10:13:03 PM »

um, when edison introduced his products they were based on science, not myth.
seriously, if you could get power for free from thin air, oh wait, they use the earths magnetic field to spin some contraption in to generate electricity, one of the following would already have taken place:

1. all us military vehicles would no longer require refueling and they would have powerful lasers since all power is now free to them and they keep the technology from everyone else.
2. the website would never have been created to scam poor gullible people like you because opec bought the thing and buried it in the deepest drawer they have to protect their financial interests.
3. some goody two shoes leaked the details and everyone is now using free power.

they have a dc motor that supposedly harnesses eletromagnetic flux to produce more energy than was put into it. i stay my course,  bs

the sad part is that after the announcement was made by gmcholdings inc. their stock went from $0.20 to $1.40.
sounds like a bunch of investors are gonna be out of their money when this bubble of free energy for all bursts, although short term high risk investments actually did pay off.

however, since the initial jump after the hype has already taken place, any further investment is just a waste, since the value will now surely decline as people realise they bought a flaming bag of S#!t.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2005, 10:29:06 PM »

resopalrabotnick ~ your genius is never out done by the sub-geniuses of others ~ lol
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2005, 01:07:15 AM »

I'm sure when Edison discovered electricity your ansestors bashed him too.  And we know how that turned out don't we 
I guess I didn't know Edison discovered electricty.I thought it was Ben Franklin Or the first guy struck by lightening that survived.
I have some headphones with rare earth magnets.
I have seen variations of this type motor for a long time if they get this one to actually work like they claim great.
What I'm waiting for is a couple of power cables suspended from a satellite getting current from the Van Allen belt
Since the Earth is a giant generator.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2005, 01:44:18 AM »

First of all, this contraption, or rather it's conceptual design, exists in defiance of Newtons physical laws of physics....the very standard of all physical science today.  Energy does not just appear out of nowhere, nor can it be self-generated.  "Energy is neither created or destroyed" says the Law of Conservation of Energy.  It remains constant, and can only be converted from one form to another.  A "generator" that is self-perpetuating can not actually generate energy, it can only recycle it.  Output energy cannot equal more than input energy, nor vice versa.  I can't think of another way to word this.

Second, this site looks like a complete hoax.  I see that it talks of the GMC Holding Corporation, but it is obviously not a legit extension of their domain.  Nor does this site really explain how this contraption supposedly works.  It looks like a gimmick, to me.  The old used-car-that-breaks-down-after-fifty-miles-and-is-not-covered-under-warranty sale.

Thirdly, what they are trying to push here is nothing terribly profound or interesting.  We have been utilising "free" power since the dawn of humanity.  Gravity, the sun, water.  Simple machines require no fossil fuels or such resources.  While these machines may not yield as high an output as, say, nuclear fission, they are yet very efficient.  Only recently have we discovered how the breaking of atomic bonds within certain molecules, where the resulting mass is less than that of the initial, releases a large amount of energy that we can harness with a refined, scientific process.

So in conclusion, science rules.  Cheap Internet hoax sites looking for a quick buck do not rule.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2005, 06:42:08 AM »

resopalrabotnick ~ your genius is never out done by the sub-geniuses of others ~ lol
thank you. i think? :haha:
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2005, 09:13:40 AM »

Shocked  Damn you be smart!!   :haha: :haha:  Its easy to get the hounds stirred up.  Thanks for the input.  Very Happy   Peace :headbang:  occasion14
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2005, 09:51:40 AM »

Shocked  Damn you be smart!!   :haha: :haha:  Its easy to get the hounds stirred up.  Thanks for the input.  Very Happy   Peace :headbang:  occasion14

so larwill...this was a test to see if the guys would be fooled??...i'm so proud Smile...we've got some real genius rockin in here...next test... Razz
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2005, 12:38:45 PM »

 :haha:  Bingo!!   Next test is 2+2=?? icon_rr
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2005, 06:10:27 PM »

2+2 = double date.

Ok, but what about this (was it Aristotle, i think?):

Agent X is on a journey from his hometown, Point A, to his destiniation target, Point Z.  On his way to get from Point A to Point Z, he must travel first to a half-way mark between them, Point C.  Then, to get from point C to Point Z, he must travel first to a half-way mark between them, Point D.  This pattern contiunes, the halfway points reached becoming closer together, closer together, closer together, etc. (you get the drift) but never meeting, in an endless function.

So the question becomes: if this half-way phenomenon is true and cannot be denied, how can Agent X ever actually reach his destination of Point Z?
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2005, 06:14:55 PM »

 Shocked I think I might have a brain bleed after that Shocked bravo!
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2005, 06:53:07 PM »

Shocked I think I might have a brain bleed after that Shocked bravo!


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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2005, 07:39:44 PM »

I have a black box with magic beans in them I will sell to any one!!!! (for some money)

The problem with the whole idea is the fact that you are to close to the earth and the gravity from earth is making friction on bearings or what ever there for it will slow down.

How come in that pick all of those batteries were hooked up to it?

 If they think that you get get more out... I would use inductive fields around themselves to make more induction. But then you have to worry about Eddie currents and such.

Now as fro the a to z thing... If there is no start or end you just are and the trip is useless. But if infinity does not exist then you will reach your destination.

OR that is what I think
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2005, 08:22:49 PM »

I have a black box with magic beans in them I will sell to any one!!!! (for some money)

The problem with the whole idea is the fact that you are to close to the earth and the gravity from earth is making friction on bearings or what ever there for it will slow down.

How come in that pick all of those batteries were hooked up to it?

 If they think that you get get more out... I would use inductive fields around themselves to make more induction. But then you have to worry about Eddie currents and such.

Now as fro the a to z thing... If there is no start or end you just are and the trip is useless. But if infinity does not exist then you will reach your destination.

OR that is what I think



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A to Z Thing:  The start point is A, the intended destination is Z.  We all know that you can realistically go from A to Z.  But we also know that you must get halfway before you can get the whole way.  Once standing at that halfway point, there then exists a new halfway point which you must cross to get to Z.  The journey becomes a binomial function where the distance variable cannot equal 0, the increment just becomes smaller and smaller until it is immeasurable.  The puzzle is a paradox, and there is no solution that I've come across.  It's just one of those frustrating things that makes sense, but doesn't make sense at all.

And you're right about infinity, it does not exist.  We just have a limited intellectual capacity and give up after a certain point.  It's like chaos; IMO there is no true chaos, everything flows according to some design.  We are simply unable to define that design ('cause we would in turn be defining ourselves), so we tag it chaos.

I would just like to expand on your point about the effect of the earth's gravity on this monkeytrap.  In order for this thing to operate as it claims to, it would have to displace a very large amount of mass.  This is not earthly possible because such a mass would be negated by the much larger mass of our planet itself.  Maybe in space, but.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2005, 08:48:42 PM »

  Very Happy  Some how much for the beans..  I'll take them all.. :tongue2:
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2005, 08:55:27 PM »

  Very Happy  Some how much for the beans..  I'll take them all.. :tongue2:

How much you got! Very Happy
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2005, 08:58:01 PM »

The space "thing" is hard because how should you figure it? do you include all of the energy that you spent putting it up there? Then how would you be able to get them to spin in differant directions? The magnetic pull would even itself out.......
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2005, 08:59:27 PM »

 Very Happy   Will you take 1.2 million wire transfer..  I'll wire transfer it to your checking account tonight..  binkybaby
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2005, 09:06:17 PM »

on the wire transfer I would have to say no.. I will take a check... All my friends call me "Cash".
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2005, 09:08:44 PM »

 :haha: Ok tell me where to drop the money in the suitcase.  Then you can mail the beans to me.. Shocked
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2005, 09:58:41 PM »

The space "thing" is hard because how should you figure it? do you include all of the energy that you spent putting it up there?

Very good question about space.  In regards to including the energy you spent sending a body into space, you would include that only if you were talking in terms relative to earth.  If you are talking in such terms, then you are creating a considerable amount of potential energy on the body that would be release upon its return to the earth's surface, kinda like stretching an elastic band and then releasing it.  But if you are talking in terms relative to space, the only potential energy is in mass, which is to say the amount of space that a body occupies, because all motion and distance can only be related between separate bodies, due to the fact that space itself has no mass.

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Then how would you be able to get them to spin in differant directions?

As for spin, and I assume that you are talking about a body spinning around an axis within itself, (like how the earth spins on its daily rotation, not like how it spins around the sun on its yearly rotation), it would take an external force (a push or a pull) to initiate it.  After that, it would continue to spin the same way until acted upon by another external force.

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The magnetic pull would even itself out.......

Do you mean to say magnetic pull, or the gravitational pull?  

Magnetic attraction is due to a difference in charges (positive and negative) between two bodies, as they try to reach a neutral charge by means of moving electrons about.

Gravity is a force that is created by a difference in mass between two bodies acting on each other.  The body with the greater mass affects the body with the smaller mass with greater force, causing the smaller body to accelerate towards it at a higher rate than vice versa, but the two bodies are in fact accelerating towards each other.  This is even the case with you and the earth: when you jump away from the ground, it seems as though the earth is pulling you back to it, which is definitely the case, but you may not realize that you are also causing the earth to accelerate towards you (that slightest, immeasurable amount) due to your own mass.  Feel the power?   Very Happy

So you may ask: why, then, doesn't the moon come crashing to the earth, since we all know that the moon is bound to orbit the earth due to gravity?

The answer is because of the motion of the bodies in question.  Along with gravity, other forces are at work, such as centrifugal force.  As an example of this, let's take Nascar.  The racers driving around the circuit feel pushed towards the outside of the car.  So the centrifugal force is working directly against the gravitational force between the two bodies, to find a balance (or something very close to it) at a certain radius, at a certain relative motion.  So the moon is stuck as it is, orbiting the earth, until an external force acts upon either body to disrupt the balance.
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2005, 11:06:20 PM »

2. the website would never have been created to scam poor gullible people like you because opec bought the thing and buried it in the deepest drawer they have to protect their financial interests.
i somewhat agree with this argument... but on discovery channel they aired a program called worlds most extreme automobiles. in the program they showcase a ford navigitar prototype being built for exclusive use by DoD and Secret Service. basically ur right bout ppl wanting to protect their profits bottom line. as for reference of unlimited laser, the james bond version navigator has some intresting features official specs classified but listed equipment in show gave infrared HUD for front and rear on windsheild multiple roofmounted rpg launchers which recease in roof over second row seating and in the package of roofmounted artillery a portable laser that they are claiming strong enough to disable tanks.

as for remat i have no idea bout it but if consider that u can make a light bulb run off of copper wire and magnets, if ur talking about a magnetic propulsion system for small products say flashlights, it could be a worthwhile investment. recent tv ads for flashlights that  u shake to start energy then it produces enough voltage to run on its own with no batteries. think in effect edisons lightbulb is an energy waste and that with recent advances in LED lighting u can now produce same amount of light with less power and more bulbs. u wouldnt need a very strong current to maintain power.

not to mention that every centuries scientists have different known variables. i.e. greeks world was mediteranean ocean, european empire thought the world was flat, and recent research in labs across the country studying quantum physics can show u through microscopes what appears to be two objects, big deal... but in reality its the same particle taking up two differents places. so in my opinion its just money you'll make more (really hope it wasnt life savings Razz) and be happy you took a chance to double it instead of say smoking it up in cra.... neway thats my two sense rate me down.  Twisted Evil
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2005, 11:10:09 PM »

I read that they want to send a generator to space! Then they would start it spinning and then "beam" the energy back to earth. since the " weightlessness" in spacewould make it so you would need no bearings of sorts it would go "forever" but the magnetic forces in the windings of the generator would eventually even out. ( or so I think).




But over all I think this is a communist ploy to get unsuspecting people to give them their money. :whaa:
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2005, 11:13:31 PM »

I read that they want to send a generator to space! Then they would start it spinning and then "beam" the energy back to earth. since the " weightlessness" in spacewould make it so you would need no bearings of sorts it would go "forever" but the magnetic forces in the windings of the generator would eventually even out. ( or so I think).




But over all I think this is a communist ploy to get unsuspecting people to give them their money. :whaa:

lol true if thats what remat is i would definately think NASA would be all over the funding
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2005, 01:03:35 AM »

This is a link to a site with several examples of this type or simular magnetic motors .
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/MagneticMotors/
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2005, 08:17:39 AM »

;)  The pic of the generator is the protype and has been condensed into a smaller version with stronger magnets and a titanium axle.  They found that if they mounted the generator on wood rather then metals there was a significant difference in its output (DUH).  The compassers recaptures  the inherent lost energy associated with most power devises.  The key is the magnets alter the way that the energy is lost so it is possible to re-capture it.  In a nut shell this generator is being independently tested as we speak and the result will be public soon.  The only hold up I hear is that they don't have a device that can measure it's off the scale torque. Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2005, 09:46:30 AM »

spell check button...below...it's ur friend use it Very Happy  book1
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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2005, 09:55:03 AM »

Was in a hurry sorry for the errors. Embarassed  Embarassed
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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2005, 10:05:49 AM »

I didn't notice the errors.....but I cant spell.

Why cant they just use math to figure out the torque?



I am sorry that I am a skeptic. It just sound to good to be true ya know!!

I do have my own ideas for "cheap" energy but I need to get a patent.
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2005, 10:14:39 AM »

Was in a hurry sorry for the errors. Embarassed  Embarassed

np...just razzin ya :haha:
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2005, 10:26:50 AM »

I'm not sure they should be able to.  It does seem to be to good to be true, but I have spoken to 5 separate people who has seen the new prototype and they have all invested.  They just merged with another company 2-3days ago and that should be public soon.  I did not invest much, no more then I can afford to lose.  Its a long shot, but like the long shots...  :haha:  I do plan on going to Orlando (since I only live an hour away)in the next couple of days to see for myself.  Shocked
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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2005, 11:14:16 AM »

;)  The pic of the generator is the protype and has been condensed into a smaller version with stronger magnets and a titanium axle.  They found that if they mounted the generator on wood rather then metals there was a significant difference in its output (DUH).  The compassers recaptures  the inherent lost energy associated with most power devises. 
I don't see the need to mount on wood a non-magnetic metal should work fine Or with modern "plastics" I don't see the need to mount on wood.They should use electro magnets that way they could vary the stregnth as needed .This might lower some of the energy recovery but should increase power or workload .
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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2005, 11:20:27 AM »

Good point..  I guess one is as good as another i.e. non-magnetic.  This is a prototype and that most likely would probably be an option in the future.. Very Happy
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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2005, 11:34:29 AM »

the funny part is that investing in it and trying to get others to do so is not the worst thing you can do, as long as yyou sell your stock in time, meaning before the dream bursts and the stock goes back to 20 cents where it started. the smart ones will make money off it (meaning 100 percent of the board of the new public company) and the rest will losse.

belief in the technology is another thing entirely.
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Neutral  Thats not my intentions.  I do not endorse this company or the technology..  I am merely asking opinions on the subject matter..  I would tell someone who knows nothing of this technology not to invest..  Only a fool would invest without doing there own homework..  Now I'm sure you will come back with some witty comment about being a fool..  But I have done my own homework and "I" choose to invest..  I know you will debate this till the end of time, but hey that's good for the board..  Please keep posting your "objective"  :haha: opinion that you so heartily seem to give to every discussion board.  I'm glad you bath us in your glorious wisdom on every subject known to man.  you are the legend in your own mind and are a self delusional god in the world called resopalrabotnick. If you are so smart please tell me what you do to make all your millions when your not posting on a community discussin site, or maybe you are at the library all day because you lack the funds and real knowledge that comes with any average IQ..  I think maybe you still live with mom and dad in the basement leeching off them because you never finished high school secondary to the reduced synasps of the brain from tooo much THC.  Anyway, hope you enjoyed the show..  SIKE  :haha: :haha:  Just kidding.. All in good fun..
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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2005, 12:51:17 PM »

now now now...everyone take a deep breath before continuing...this could fall into the fire known as flaming...stop and think before u post
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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2005, 05:08:51 PM »

It was all in fun!  :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: icon_salut occasion14
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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2005, 05:40:49 PM »

i know but sometimes that kind of talk can insite a riot :haha:
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2005, 05:46:28 PM »

 Very Happy   no sweat..   :haha:
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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2005, 06:57:48 PM »

well, i will take a deep breath and respond with a politically correct flame.

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did i say you were foolish to invest? i would call you foolish if you believed in the technology, just as i will call you foolish if you believe in the tooth fairy, santa or anything else of the kind.

do you have any concept of what the term greater than unity means? unity in this case is the term applied to the equality of the energy input of a machine, to the power output and mechanical losses of the system.

take your car.

in rough terms:

energy input: a given amount of gasoline.

resulting power: about 25 percent of the energy of the gasoline in motive power.
the remaining 75 percent are:
- friction losses in the engine, drivetrain. dissipated as heat
- unburnt hydrocarbons ejected via exhaust.
- resistance of the airflow inside the engine. gases need to be accelerated/moved from intake through motor to the exhaust.
- electricity consumed by electrical system, generates load on alternator, subtracts from power available to move car.
- the thermal energy in the heated exhaust gases
- power to pump oil/water through motor

adding all this up results in being able to account for all the energy being input into the car via gasoline.

greater than unity would mean that the sum of the energy used for propulsion and the energy dissipated as waste would be greater than the energy input into the car via the gasoline.

this means that there would need to be some source of energy that is making energy appear literally out of thin air and inputting it into the system.

any closed system, be it as small as a single atom or even a subatomic particle or as large as the universe has a balance of power input and output.
you cannot extract energy out of a device that was not first introduced into it. therefore you cannot extract more electrical power from the greater than unity device than was put into it to begin with, especially since you have to contend with friction losses, losses to electrical resistance in the wiring etc. etc.
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2005, 09:05:27 PM »

Shocked yoda yoda yoda and the world is flat.  Well Sir, I'll have you know that you are wasting your time explaining Greater then Unity to me.  I am very much aware of the concept and applied rules.   What we have here is a failure to communicate.  Did you ever consider that 100 years ago there were 100's of 1,000's  of skeptics that were ignorant to the fact of the type of technology and advance that we see today as common.  If you think that technology is bound by any rules well then, I guess I am wasting my time.  Good thing Bill Gates didn't listen to all them so called experts(skeptics) who foretold that Windows would never work.  I guess he is laughing all the way to the bank with a net worth of 51 Billion...  Anything is within the realm of science eventually.   Neutral  NEXT.....................................................................
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Shocked yoda yoda yoda and the world is flat.  Well Sir, I'll have you know that you are wasting your time explaining Greater then Unity to me.  I am very much aware of the concept and applied rules.   What we have here is a failure to communicate.  Did you ever consider that 100 years ago there were 100's of 1,000's  of skeptics that were ignorant to the fact of the type of technology and advance that we see today as common.  If you think that technology is bound by any rules well then, I guess I am wasting my time.  Good thing Bill Gates didn't listen to all them so called experts(skeptics) who foretold that Windows would never work.  I guess he is laughing all the way to the bank with a net worth of 51 Billion...  Anything is within the realm of science eventually.   Neutral  NEXT.....................................................................

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« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2005, 04:57:43 AM »

and what does an old wrinkled jedi have to do with it. the again if he believes in jedi, it doesn't surprise me he believes in greater than unity devices.



the fact that yoyu claim to know what is behind the greater than unity hoax is a great source of amusement to me, since it means you are not smart enough to invest into it shortterm to make a buck off all the other people who believe it but are actually willing to loose said buck by staying on for the duration it takes yet another scheme to fail.
but wait! what's that? my water glass is glowing! right after i set it atop a rotating magnet! let me get my pocket fluxometer out... yes! eureka! FUSION! i have cold fusion i've got to market it!
just because some guy with an obfuscated mass of wiring around an old motor says so doesn't mean that he has actually achieved greater than unity. if this thing came out of MIT i might give it a second look, but somebody reviving a decades old idea that has so far never worked, well, he just doesn't bring a lot of credibility with him to begin with.
as for the sworn statement by hobo joe stating that he's seen it work, sure. i can go out in the street with a few hundred bucks and get a dozen sworn statements that my car extracts gaasoline from the air and i go to the gas station only to sell them the contents of my tank when it's full. want me to build you one just like it?
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« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2005, 06:33:07 AM »

Smile  Hey I paid Hobo Jo and his family an absorbent amount of money to tell everybody that this gloppy works..   :haha:  So basically, you are under the belief that there will never be any device that will achieve Greater Then Unity.  Well I guess I would have to say u bent een dwaas om dat na de vooruitgang te denken  wij in de loop van de afgelopen 100 jaar hebben gemaakt dat om het even wat mogelijk zou kunnen zijn.   See ya on the flip side..  :haha: :haha:
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« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2005, 09:49:34 AM »

who cares about progress in the course of the last 100 years, there's plans for perpetuum mobiles that are thousands of years old, and none of them work either. go back to your windmills and plant some tulips. then ponder wether the windmill draws energy from nothing to drain water from below the sealevel or if there is actually some external force driving it. hm. wind, maybe? or is it the worlds first greater than unity windmill.

if i told you i could build a glass globe that harnesses cosmic radiation to excite a gas that makes the globe vibrate and metal wires wrapped around the globe generate megawatts of electricity you would believe me and give me money? if you don't i will call you a backwards caveman that is foolish to not believe that that can be achieved since people laughed at other inventions, so how dare you judge my great feat. that's just to show how basically flawed that argument is. of colurse you're gonna say that you can make the argument because you have discovered the holy grail of technology in this gtu gimmick, so only you can make that claim. so much for being openminded.
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« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2005, 10:46:24 AM »

;) Ok the laws of physics disputes this theory with absoluteness.  I understand that but, my opinion these laws have been around for a long time and science does change with every growing decade..  I guess the only way to solve this discussion is to just wait and see..  If it does proves to be fake, well then I guess shame on me for believing it..  Only time will tell.  Smile  Thanks for your point of view..
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« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2005, 04:42:29 PM »

I understand that but, my opinion these laws have been around for a long time and science does change with every growing decade.. 


Uh-uh.  No you didn't.  The laws don't change, the build on the fundamentals.  The fundamentals can't change, cause then you couldn't call it science anymore.  For example: just because we developed an abstract language to communicate motion over time into functions, called calculus, it doesn't mean that 1+1 doesn't equal 2 anymore.  I think what you mean to say is that science "advances."
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« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2005, 04:56:24 PM »

 :haha: Yep...
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« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2005, 04:57:10 PM »

 :haha:  Peace occasion14 :headbang:
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« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2005, 10:45:26 PM »

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« Reply #54 on: November 08, 2005, 05:04:00 AM »

;) Ok the laws of physics disputes this theory with absoluteness.
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« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2005, 09:42:17 AM »

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ORLANDO, Fla., Feb. 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- GMC Holding Corp. (OTC Pink Sheets: GMCC - News) announced today the opening of negotiations with multiple corporate entities who wish to acquire the exclusive rights of its REMAT(TM) "cold motor" technology. "Cold motor" is defined as motors that run at 140 degrees Fahrenheit or less at full load.
Because of the sensitive nature of the technology, negotiations and participants, GMCC is not at liberty to provide details at this time. GMCC can confirm the entities include S&P 500 corporations. Preliminary negotiations indicate a transaction in the $350-$500 million range. GMCC intends to allocate 96% of the revenue realized from the sale of the REMAT(TM) asset as income directly to its shareholders. The remaining income will be maintained in GMCC for ongoing acquisition and capitalization of new technologies, which are complimentary to the REMAT(TM) line.

Until the close of negotiations, GMCC will aggressively pursue the development of its REMAT product expanding its diversity in the energy arena including the production of the highest efficiency generator known today. As of January 31, 2006, the company's share structure is as follows:

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« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2006, 06:02:21 PM »

lolz.. I read their description of it... it's nothing more than a expensive DC motor
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« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2006, 08:08:44 PM »

YEAH FOR 350-500 MILLION,  DOESN'T MATTER ANYWAY I'M WINNING!  JUST THOUGHT I'D LET THOSE KNOWITALLS WHAT I TRIED TO ELIGHTN THEM WITH AND WAS A SKEPTIC.  THIS STOCK WAS TRADING FOR .20 AT ITS LOWEST HAS BEEN ON THE RISE SINCE..  $20,000 INVESTMENT IS NOW $100,000 IN 3 DAYS..  WELL I'VE WASTED ENOUGH TIME WITH YOU LOSERS.. ADIOS!  iamwithstupid  thefinger nono :booty: :flipa: :flipa:
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« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2006, 01:13:52 AM »

2+2 = double date.

Ok, but what about this (was it Aristotle, i think?):

Agent X is on a journey from his hometown, Point A, to his destination target, Point Z.  On his way to get from Point A to Point Z, he must travel first to a half-way mark between them, Point C.  Then, to get from point C to Point Z, he must travel first to a half-way mark between them, Point D.  This pattern continues, the halfway points reached becoming closer together, closer together, closer together, etc. (you get the drift) but never meeting, in an endless function.

So the question becomes: if this half-way phenomenon is true and cannot be denied, how can Agent X ever actually reach his destination of Point Z?
My guess would be that he could end the journey, after he gets so close, he is so tired that he eventually falls over the rest of the way(or trips), which ever works best.  :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
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« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2006, 04:57:37 AM »

larwill, i never said you or anyone else can't make money of gullible fools with this thing. just look at the food supplement industry. it's basically the same thing. and good on yer that your investment went up. but look at what they achieved. their stock was trading for under a buck, i think 20 cents at its lowest. so they kept a bunch of shares and are slowly selling them off now that it is trading high, not too fast to make the stock look like it's stagnating. you should watch it closely to time your selling off right, before it goes down too much.

i find it sad that people can throw a bunch of hype out there and cause people to invest in something that can never work.

when you enjoy the profits you make from this think of the poor schlub that bought the stock you sold to reap your ill gotten gains. watch the value plummet eventually (hopefully after you got out) and see somebody elses savings go down the crapper. by cashing in your profits you will be stealing other peoples money! now there's a nice thought when you're sitting in your armchair later in life, enjoying your ill gotten gains, pondering how the world will remember you...
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« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2006, 01:08:20 AM »

My guess would be that he could end the journey, after he gets so close, he is so tired that he eventually falls over the rest of the way(or trips), which ever works best.  :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

I think that is the best answer I've come across yet.  :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
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« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2006, 01:56:17 AM »

A good poker player does know when to cash in. I bet he gets greedy and misses it!!!Lol :haha: :haha: :haha:
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